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Thursday, January 11, 2007

The personal and the political

by M. Stewart

Penny Traina’s appointment to the county commission Wednesday was certainly a surprise. Most of those who know Ms. Traina like her, and that includes me, so in the purely personal sense, I offer my congratulations and wish her the best. However, there are other issues that lead me to question the move.

First of all, an appointment to such a high county office is not for political novices, which Ms. Traina certainly is. In 2006 she ran for county auditor against Republican incumbent Nancy Milliken and lost in what was otherwise a sweep year for Democrats. As such, the party may have done better to appoint someone who has previously won the approval of voters and who has at least some political experience.

Traina has no experience in politics, so her appointment to one of the highest political offices in the county must be considered suspicious. We might compare it to a school board appointing a person who has never set foot in a classroom to the position of district superintendent. That the county Dems have decided to put Traina on the fast track is fine, but placing an unelected novice on the commission represents an unnecessary risk not only for the party, but for the entire county.

This leads us to the question of qualifications. Let’s be honest, there are no particular qualifications for any political office beyond the ability to draw a majority vote, but as a political appointee, Traina does not own even that minimal qualification. A few years experience working in the treasurer’s office of a small school district is something, but it’s not enough—especially on the heels of a major taxation snafu in the district.

Both Democrats and Republicans are guilty of cronyism, which is hardly a new thing in politics, but that doesn’t make it right. Given Traina’s lack of political experience, her appointment to the county commission cannot be seen as anything other than pure cronyism. In other words, she has friends in high places. It’s important for all of us to understand that a local political party is little more than a club one joins, and if you’re popular in the club, you earn favor with those who can give you a good job. In that way, politics is no different than most other fraternities. The one meager safeguard we have against cronyism is the ballot box, which did not come into play here.

Does any of this mean that Traina cannot be an effective commissioner? No, of course not. She may do very well, and I genuinely hope she does. More than anything else, the position requires informed, honest leadership. If she can deliver that, fine, but already she’s gotten off on the wrong foot with voters. Traina’s admission that she supports former Commissioner Sean Logan’s sales tax scam is alarming. Under the circumstances, I would think the very last thing she’d want to do is let on that she approved of a political maneuver that undermined the will of the electorate. Sometimes it's best to keep quiet.

As a writer on local politics, I do the best I can to separate the personal and the political, which means that sometimes I am compelled to write negative things about people I know and like. It's a matter of credibility. Here is a situation where I hope this issue is well understood. In that spirit, let me once again offer my most sincere personal congratulations to Commissioner Traina. I hope her experience in Lisbon is both positive and productive.

79 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good old boys at it again!

9:38 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Richard Presutti and the Russell Heights Gang at it again! Stop up at Slots-A-Fun for 5 bucks in free gambling-I mean "skilled" gaming. As greazy as that plate of breakfast he eats daily at Golden Carryout!

10:14 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's not who you know!

10:34 AM  
Anonymous The Wiz said...

I find this article strange as if one expected anything different. The people, although I disagree, voted no-sales tax....so we got one! The people voted no to Traina....so we got her. Maybe just maybe the people of our county, townships,cities and villes, will make their voices heard, if not by the ballot box, then maybe by petitions for change. Just my rationale!

10:38 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You people all seem to forget that it's not like Penny voted yourself in, the panel voted for her. These are "intelligent", wise, adults who are very capable of making their own decisions and they made a decision, to appoint Penny Traina as Columbiana County Comissioner! It's an honor that she obviously has earned.

11:45 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'll bite, how did she 'obviously earn' getting appointed? This is what people want to know.

11:55 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Intelligent, wise, capable, adults" who implemented a sales tax AGAINST the wishes of the voters, instead of trying to find ways of cutting costs at the county level plus bringing cronyism to a new height. The Democratic Party of Columbiana County would do the DeLay party of the Republicans proud.

12:25 PM  
Anonymous The Wiz said...

11:45
It's called you scratch mine - I'll scratch your. What needs to be done at this stage is - (1) find out who voted for her, (2) watch her pay-backs and (3) use that information to ensure you don't vote her in when she runs (in what 2 years?). Unless of course, if she earns your vote.

12:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Read my lips, Dirty Politics!!!!!!!!

1:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I like Penny however, I believe that there is no way that she should be our new Commissioner any more than my Mailman should. What in the world were these people thinking? Because she has some experience in numbers then she is qualified? Hey I have a dog and that doesnt make me a Vet.

1:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

my question is how can she give the County Commisioner's job 110%? What will she give her treasurer's job? I thought both jobs were full time and both were daylight hours with weekends and holidays off Who will get the short end of the stick the taxpayers of wellsville who also pay county tax or the whole county. Looks like big shoes to fill

3:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's not forget about some politicians that hold one job and that job only and give only 10%!!! I'm curious as to who will give Ms. Traina these so called kick-backs? Are there really motives? I don't think so,other than the fact that she is very vivacious,honest and hard working,something that we rarely see in people these days. Who doesn't want to make better for themselves. If Ms. Traina wants to get involved in politics,then that's her business. She's just a hard to come by, hard working female in this working institution these days. I think she can handle it. If she can't, I am sure Ms. Traina will be the first to lest us all know!!!

3:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Penny Traina has done more in these last 5-6 years to improve herself than anyone in this blog has done. I can almost guarantee that! When Penny is faced with a challenge, she over-comes it. THAT is the type of person I want as my Commissioner!
I am not a relative, nor am I her friend. I am just somebody that has sat back and watched her thrive. More single women should have a fraction of determination this woman has!
There is no doubt in my mind that Penny is going to make a wonderful Commissioner!

3:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you said it right 3:58 and 3:52! that woman has alot of determination. she definitely is a go getter with nothing to hide. just hard work and determination. i truly believe Penny has a good heart and that good heart is with this county. Show em' what you really stand for...the people of this county.....Ms.Penny Hipsley Trainer,Traina!!!!Go get em' TIGER!!!!

4:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

12:25 my point was that you "the voters" are the panel that voted most of those wise adults so you obviously agree that you trust them enough to vote for them.

5:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree! Penny Traina is a remarkable woman. She is strong and determined, ambitious and intelligent. She is what I feel the county needs in order make a turn around.

5:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So this is what the tax payers put Ms. Traina through school for! Now I get it.

5:37 PM  
Anonymous The Wiz said...

5:16
You left out one importance criteria....experience (qualifications). I don't know what the Commissioner makes, but she was just given a raise to $55,000.00 by the School District. By the way, I think I read somewhere she would be giving up her school job. I would assume that her pay will be more than what she is leaving. Pretty hefty income for a trainee. Don't read me wrong, I hope she succeeds. However, in my opinion, we should not have people in training while allowing them to spend our money.

5:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Penny never said she was resigning her position from the school district...the NEWSPAPER said that.....NOT her! Can't always trust what ya read in the papers,albeit human error or misinformation.

6:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Heidi Fleiss is ambitious too.

6:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I read on really-really stupid blog that we need to find out exactly how much money the commissioners have invested. Wouldn't it be interesting if she "found" the money. They might not want her in there then.
But if I was her I would not want my picture taken with Johnny Wargo, or Lowe.

6:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You people really need to get a life. A woman from Wellsville does good and you want to make bad of her. Look yourself in the mirror and ask yourself one question. Why am I so bitter. Congratulations Penny! YOU DESERVE IT, no matter what these people and Mr. "know it all but do nothing" Stewart say.

7:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Ambitious" "Makes Good"
You people sound like Hillbillies. Is this really the most anyone's ever achieved in Wellsville?

7:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let me see the voters vote aginst her! Then she gets appointed to that office, seems fare to me. hum...

7:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have to agree,Heidi Fleiss is an ambitious lady,and boy can that bitch make the $$$$$$$!!!!We all love that shit! People love seeing other people like her make that freaking ass kind of money the way she does,but when it comes to an honest,ambitious,hometown girl like Penny,it's a whole new freakin' ass game isn't it? WHY? ...WHY??? People have a hard time seeing someone from around here do better with and for themselves. Has Penny ever ripped you off or done something to you? I doubt it! If she did,face the music,because I'm sure she won't run away from you or give you a line of shit/lies! That's the type of person she is and will be and will represent this damned county!

7:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

She's known all the right people all along.

Gets a divorce...and the BOE that her ex-husband is on takes her from a secretary's position to the school treasurer in spite of the fact that she wasn't even qualified (and for the record, her husband did abstain from the vote, but that doesn't mean he had no influence)....

Now, she finally gets her qualifications for school treasurer and she wants to enter the political arena. She runs in one election, loses...and somehow comes out a county commissioner. Unbelievable. Talk about always falling in crap and coming out smelling like a rose! [This comment was edited and reposted.]

7:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Matt,ya ever hear anything about almost $700k and an expensive emergency truck given to Columbiana County for Terrorrism in our county? Has nadda to do with who was just elected and who was put in to replace Logan. Nobody seems to know where the $$$ went or has any one seem to have seen the vehicle. That's a lot of moola and a big vehicle to hide,I'd have to say! So where did the stuff go? Maybe you can check into this and find out if there is any truth to it. Good Luck!

8:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

5:09, those Democrats were not elected who chose Ms.Traina, they are appointed.

8:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I bet your all a bunch of rocket scientist and brain surgeons with outstanding resumes' and you knock your selves out everyday trying to improves yourselves. This gives you the right to critique Penny like you have or is it the taxpayer story.

11:02 PM  
Blogger M. said...

Commissioner Traina and her friends will have to realize that entering public life means the public (and yes, that includes everyone here at ORL) pays your salary and decides how long you will stay employed. It also means that you are open for criticism, which is something you must learn to take in stride.

BTW, if I am the "Mr. know-it-all-but-do-nothing" that you claim, then you have absolutely nothing to worry about.

7:11 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Penny Trainer really must've sucked up to you too 7:45, cause you sure have went out of your way to stick up for her. What did Heidi Fleiss ever do to you, she worked hard and got some of our favorite celebrities some pussy. I don't think that makes her a bad person, she provides a service, if you don't like it well then, you face the fucking music. I'd rather have her in public office than Penny Traina or your other friend Richard Presutti, real class act there!

9:25 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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9:31 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wellsville School District is and always was the Marriage Mill of Wellsville!

9:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 8:03 If I'm thinking of the same vehicle that your thinking of then they had a open house of that terrorist vehicle that the public could come and look inside of it.I don't think that they are hiding it. Its parked at the Sheriff's office and I saw a Deputy driving it in the Wellsville Christmas parade.

9:52 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

apparently the blog administrator must be friends with the chip guy. whatever happened to free speech!!

10:26 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

did anyone read todays newspaper about giving wellsvilles mayor a pay raise. didnt we just come out of fiscal emergency?

10:58 AM  
Anonymous The Wiz said...

Let me see if I got this right! Everyone on this site is either for or against Penny Traina because (1) she is now the Wellsville School District Treasurer making $55,000.00 per year and (2) also a County Commissioner at a salary of $63,800,00 per year. The money here, in my opinion, is not the issue because I would bet any amount not one of you would turn down whatever the top figure you could get for the job(s) you do. No the money is not the issue and it should not be. In addition, the issue here is not Penny Traina. It is what is and/or what is not permitted by the Wellsville School Board and the County Human Resource Office. There are two (2) issues, qualifications and how we, with our form of government, permit our monies to be spent.
Let me start with the position of Wellsville School District Treasurer. The School District I hope would have had a pre-determined set of criteria that one would have to meet prior to placement into a position. If they placed her and then permitted her to acquire the qualifications after the hiring, then this Board failed in their duty for the residents of the Wellsville’s School District and should pay the penalty of not getting reelected. I have to hope they did not do the latter. Because they have just increased her salary, I have to assume they believe she is doing a satisfactory job and therefore awarded her with an increase in income. I can assume that the figure of $26.00 per hour is commensurate with other school districts, but I do not know. In addition, I do not know if the value of her time is based on a full-time (40 hours) commitment or just whatever time it takes to satisfy the requirements of the position. In most cases of a salary position you are compensated for a job whose dollar worth has been increased a degree because it is assumed that more than the normal 40 hour per week would normally be required and would entail paying overtime which by paying a salary eliminates. In most salary positions, especially the higher paying ones, the employee are not permitted to have additional employment commitments. For example, why wouldn’t Linda Bolen or Sean Logan just keep both of their jobs ? Again as you can see the issue is not who it is, it is what is required and what is not. An issue may be brewing if one is to believes what the newspapers write. The article stated the Board would be discussing with Ms. Traina if she is going to do both jobs. This cannot be her decision at least I would hope not!
Moving on to the position of County Commissioner. When reading this, I want you to be aware my politics are Ultra-conservative Republican. I promise in this case, I will refrain from pointing fingers. If I can! First, I agree with what Jim Hoppel said in the newspaper… this is a Democrat issue not a Republican issue. I also agree with the person who stated Ms Traina did not vote herself in, but rather a group of appointed Democrats. I don’t believe this group of Democrat appointees looked at her qualifications as a pre-requisite for filling this position. I believe they failed the county residents by not appointing the most qualified, in this regard I believe the voters (Democrats) will remind them come election time. Although with politics no one can ever really know what is in the works, but we should assume that the powers, be them from either party, do favors such as voting with or for a person/position that they can refer back to when they need a favor. As I said before on this site, the voter will, if they have the courage, make the appointees aware who really runs the parties. I believe, Ms Traina will fill the seat left vacant by Logan and I hope she does a good, if not great, job. I would hope she resigns her position with the Wellsville School District and permits her assistant the ability to progress as she has. I wish her all the luck, for she will surely need it and she will find that the job does and definitely should require all the strength and time she has. It is one thing to want to do a good job and another to do a good job.

1:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why did Sean Logan resign ? Anybody can use a part time job.

4:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

$115,000.00 for two part time jobs. Justify that taxpayers.

4:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

9:39am....Please explain what you mean.I dont get it.

4:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The right to free speech only applies in the relationship between the public and the government. This website is not "the government" and therefore there is no "right to free speech" here any more than there would be in your living room.

6:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

623 do you actually believe what you wrote, or are you scared of what people might say to hurt your feelings. if you dont like what people say maybe you should go live in highlandtown with the rest of the shut-ins.

12:18 AM  
Blogger M. said...

Well stated, Wiz.

1:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with Wiz completely. I am quite disturbed that our laws are not a little more strict when it comes to elected offices and the job qualifications that should be expected for a candidate, when you consider a hefty salary such as a county commissioner position.

"Cheryl Subler is managing director of policy for the CCAO. She said the law does not distinguish between what constitutes full-time or part-time status for a commissioner, other than they must attend one meeting every 90 days."
Morning Journal

I think our government needs to change such things. In some municipalities, elected officals who serve as a legislative authority are paid per meeting they attend. My own opinion is that if one is going to receive a salary of over $63,000, this position should be expected to at least receive 40 hours a week. This is an entire county we are running here!

7:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

and do you really think that Penny would only attend one meeting every 90 days?!?!?!?!?!............NO she will give it her all

9:10 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just to let you know I do know Penny very well and I will say that in all the time that she has been treasurer she has never worked JUST a 40 hour week. it has always been more than that because she is a person who will give everything she has.

9:16 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

maybe Penny wants to better herself so she get the hell out of this shithole someday!

9:17 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

12:18, yes I believe what I said...if you don't believe it, then you should take a government class. I was only responding to the person that was griping about "free speech" being limited on this board. Like I said, the first amendment only prohibits the government from limiting speech, not private entities.

If someone comes in your house and is saying things you do not like, you have every right to censor their speech. There is no "freedom of speech" in your home.

That's the way the law works, whether you want to believe it or not. I'm someone that thinks the Traina appointment is a farce, so it has nothing to do with "fear."

9:22 AM  
Blogger Al Traina said...

Dear "Anonymous Posters",
It is very easy to log onto this site anonymously and state your negative opinion when no one knows who you are. Since I live in Columbus my only access to Wellsville issues is through the internet and when I read a negative anonymous posting the only word that comes to mind is chickenshit. Now I understand that emotions can run high in situations like this, but let's start acting like adults and not immature adolescence. So that it is made clear, I respect any and all opinions given, negative or positive, when someone has the integrity to sign their name to their work. With that being said this will be the first and last statement that I will make on this site. Hopefully the "kids" currently hiding behind these anonymous postings can grow up just a little bit and act like adults. If you want your opinion to be respected then let people know who you are.
Thank you,
Alfonso Traina II
(Son of Penny Traina)

9:55 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Al,
The other night I told your mother how proud I was of her. I am just as proud of you. This site has an amazing pull to it. I guess it is human nature to want to read things that are said about people. I have posted a few times here in support of people being bashed. I too am done. To hell with these people who can do nothing but bash others. Congratulations to those who strive to be sucessful in life. Get that degree and with a little luck an a lot of hard work you someday may be as sucessful as your mother. By the statements you just made here, you are well on your way.

10:17 AM  
Anonymous Mark Chrisman said...

Al you are a chickshit yourself, don't hide in Columbus, come say that to my face!

11:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey chrisman al junior is a fine kid sticking up for mommy

11:42 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

crismans a puss Al

2:12 AM  
Anonymous G.G. Allin said...

I find it hard to believe that anyone would vote for any democrat when you have someone like Richard Presutti pulling the strings backstage. What dies he do anyway? Oh I forgot, slots O Fun, lol! What a fucking joke. I'm running for President next year.

12:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

speaking of slots of fun, who actually owns that building? 3 or 4 businesses in the last couple of years. owner must be really hard up for money to let a place like slots of fun to operate there.SLUMLORD!!!!!!!!!!

2:45 PM  
Anonymous Bosco's Pizza said...

Nick Dalonzo own's it.

3:44 PM  
Blogger M. said...

Untrue. Nick DaLonzo does not own that building. I believe Cris McNicol owns it--at least he did.

4:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do any of these positions come with a job description? A person who is hired has to fill the terms of a job description. I would think that Wellsville School District would have one for their treasurer. I just wondered about the Commissioners.

4:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I thought Desarro bought it.Well maybe he just has Presutti run it for him.

6:17 PM  
Anonymous Ray Duffield said...

No, no, no, I hear Nick Dalonzo's owns it a cater to slots o fun!

1:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Ray Ray, what the hell does that mean? It doesn't make sense.

1:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This comment might be coming a little late, but some said that the tax payers put penny through school........not true she paid her own tuition and finished school with flying colors while she did her job and turned Wellsville schools around

1:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not replacing retiring teachers isn't rocket science. Anybody could have come up with that...I'm not saying it wasn't the right move, but let's not make it like she rode in on a white horse with revolutionary ideas and turned things around.

2:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'd rather have Ray Ray Duffield have both of her new jobs.

6:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nick DaLonzo has nothing at all to do with that building anymore.Chris Mcnicol owns it Chris DeSarro supplies it with the machines and who knows who runs it. Wonder what they'll put in there next?

1:53 AM  
Anonymous Deeni Dysert said...

As far as I know, Nick DaLonzo no longer owns that building or anything tied to that building. Last I heard, Cris (and that is the proper spelling of his first name) McNicol, owns the building. If Chris DeSarro is putting the machines in there, so what? What's the big problem? Everytime I've been back to Wellsville and driven by, it looks to me like the place is deserted. So what's the big problem? Nick, Cris, and Chris are all personal friends of mine, and as long as there is nothing illegal going on, and the business is bringing money to Wellsville, then who cares?
As for Penny, she is also someone I've known most of my whole life. I don't know what her qualifications are these days, as I've been in Boston for 12 years. But, good Lord, give her a chance. How often is it that we actually have a Wellsville voice at the county level??? If she falls on her face, then at next election, vote her out. But geez, Wellsvillians, can't you try to back her, get her to look out for Wellsville while you've got her in there! She needs your support now, not your snide, jealous comments. And Penny, if you don't do everything within your newly given power to change things for Wellsville, then the next elections should reflect that. I'm on you side, but you need to take advantage of your new opportunity . . . .it's one of power.

3:12 AM  
Anonymous Turd Ferguson said...

I think the whole controversy is over the fact she wasn't elected in the fall, she was defeated by a landslide. She already had controversy in Wellsville over the suspicious chessgame-checkmate that gave her the School District job that she (at the time) wasn't actually qualified for. At any rate, she resigned her Treasurer position last night so we'll see how she does at the county level.

8:27 AM  
Anonymous T.DAWSON said...

maybe deeni should move back and run for office sounds like she knows evetything.sure she would have the backing from her dad and his buddies down at the moose,elks or whatever the hell it is.

9:09 AM  
Blogger M. said...

I think it would be great if Ms. Dysert returned to our area and got involved with politics. I doubt if that's her plan, but I know Wellsville and Columbiana County would welcome her back anytime.

1:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

3:12,you make a very good point about Penny. At least give an insider the opportunity to help Wellsville. It sure needs the help and who but someone from the Ville better to do it and I think if Penny keeps her priorities in order,she can and will help the Ville the best she can,she is one hard-ass working woman!

1:55 PM  
Anonymous t. dawson said...

i hear everyone saying penny traina is such a hard working woman . i am still waiting for results in the wellsville schools. now we are supposed to support her as a commisioner,why?

1:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE A COMMISIONER? go against what the voters of the county want.hell doesnt take a rocket scientist to do that job, our new APPOINTED commisioner should well.

2:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How ironic, she was shot down in the fall election, which is what the voters wanted. The tax was shot down which is what the voters wanted. Now we got her and the tax!! How screwed up is that? BTW she's such a revolutionary, she's already stated she would've passed the tax if she was in position to.

2:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jarrett says

I think that you are all jealous of Penny and that is a shame at least she's not as lazy as the bunch of you are, that have nothing to do but sit ans criticize a person for trying to better herself. It seems to me that she has done a good job for Wellsville Schools or they would not have voted to keep her. Grow up

10:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You people are so worried about her qualifications and the imposing of the tax, is there anyone of you that have better qualifications or a better idea how to keep this county out of bankruptcy. I doubt it.
It seems that our current Republican commissioner has been sitting on his hands the last few years, and was letting this county slide into the river an inch at a time but I guess that was alright.
By the way the people who voted to put Penny in office are elected they are not appointed, they have to run for their precinct seats, it would be nice if you had the right information.

10:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Penny, nobody wants to talk about it any more so you can let it go and show us whatch you got.

10:35 PM  
Anonymous Deeni said...

t.Dawson and Pete F. -- Fear not . . . I have no political aspirations, nor the qualifications to even contemplate such an endeavor.

Matt -- Thanks, and it's great to see that some people are signing their names to their posts (those who sign their real names, that is).

Al Traina II -- very good post. I truly hope your mother does well, for the county and for the town.

12:11 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey 10:35 why don't you quit talking about it then!

7:58 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

well said 10:14 and 10:23! Go Penny Jo every Penny counts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

8:13 AM  

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