Questioning CMHA
by M. Stewart
Today's Review carries a story about last night's East Liverpool City Council discussion of subsidized housing in the city. We can thank council members Brian Kerr and Sherrie Curtis for their willingness to ask questions and demand information before inviting still more subsidized residents into town.
One telling response came when Kerr asked about how the townships participate in subsidized living. According to the newspaper, CMHA's Tom Snow responded by saying the program was only for the three cities in the county. Why doesn't that surprise me?
Curtis asked for addresses of CMHA clients already in the city so she could check with the police chief regarding crime statistics associated with them. In addition to the homes CMHA operates here, there are several apartment complexes. Perhaps Sherrie also can gather crime statistics associated with those addresses. I think it would be useful to know the total number of people in East Liverpool who are living in subsidized housing. As well, it would be useful to know the names and addresses of CMHA-subsidized landlords. Exactly who profits from this system?
When Kerr pushed the issue and mentioned specific scenarios of antisocial, criminal and destructive behavior, Snow said that CMHA leaves the eviction of problem tenants up to the landlord. Apparently he had nothing to say about a recent letter to the editor that accused him of failing to act against problem tenants at a property he owns.
It's clear that what we need is real data involving CMHA's effect on the city, and I applaud Kerr and Curtis for their efforts to find such data. The problem is that it will take a serious research effort to locate and apply all the variables that come into play. Anecdotal evidence from homeowners living near CMHA housing is hard to quantify, and it's clear that all the people actually living in CMHA rental units may not be on the record. In other words, it will be difficult to obtain data about people who merely "stay" in any given unit.
What we are seeing here is a good start, and I hope the effort continues. Investigating East Liverpool's poverty industry is a long-term commitment.
posted by M. | 6:17 AM
7 Comments:
First, we gotta tip the hat to Sherrie and Kerr and ask where are the rest of city council?
Are they frightened...intimidated?
Second, if I understand this right: Many years ago Democrat policy was created that sought to relieve the distress of the 'poor' and provide 'free' housing (apparently this is before the days when Barney Fwank, Chris Dodd, and Maxine Waters strong armed bankers via Freddy and Fanny, to give loans to people who weren't ever going to pay them back...but don't worry the stupid American taxpayer will foot the bill and re-elect the clowns that screwed them) and in so doing creates a violent crime/drug problem in the city. People are murdered, property destroyed, and stuff stolen every day in ELO. The city's not safe in part because the stupid policy has created a whole lot more problems than it ever solved.
What to do? What to do?
Matt, praises a couple of city council members for "asking questions" which is kinda like thanking them for doing their job. Well, citizens rest easy: data is to be gathered and a study executed in the near future. Perhaps, we'll bring in an 'expert' or two to help solve a problem created by electing Democrats...ha,ha,ha!
Who are the other two cities in the county that participate in the subsidized housing ?
Glad to see someone finally speaking up, and looking for answers and statistics.
Pardon me if this is a stupid question, but the count of CMHA houses doesn't include HUD approved homes does it? I think that is something to consider, in addtion to the almost 200 CMHA homes there are in the city, I have to wonder how many HUD homes there are as well.
I have known people who live in the section 8 houses, as well as several of the maintainance men. I have heard stories of meth labs, child neglect and endangerment, and generations of the same family all living in the same apartment complex.
These certainly need investigated, there needs to be some level of accountability for who CMHA brings into our town.
Not that I disagree with the assertion that much of the city's crime can be traced back to so-called "welfare housing," but I'd have to look a little closer before agreeing the murders which have occurred in the city had to do with people living in Section 8 housing.
I believe the Avondale Street house where the latest murder occurred is a rental but is it Section 8?
Where and when was the last murder in town? Have there actually been any murders at LaBelle, Heights Manor, Blossom Hill, Fawcett or Riverview Towers...all subsidized housing I believe.
Interesting subject to investigate.
Inquiring minds--
According to Bob, we have a murder per day in East Liverpool, and it's all the Democrats' fault. I've never made the claim that there is a correlation between Section 8 housing and murder. On the other hand, I have suggested that there may be a correlation between the subsidized poor and criminal activity. Accurate data may be difficult to obtain, however, because oftentimes the criminals who "stay" with tenants do not sign the leases. And it's not always CMHA properties.
BTW, maybe we could poll the murderers, rapists, theives, and dopers and see who were commie-dems and who were members of the GOP?
My guess there's only about 18 registered GOP voters left in ELO. Well, it's what you people wanted, Ha,ha,ha!
How's that Hope and Change workin' out for ya?
Bob said...
Second, if I understand this right: Many years ago Democrat policy was created that sought to relieve the distress of the 'poor' and provide 'free' housing . . .
[end of quote]
I am curious. Did you do any research into the background of what is now public housing, CMHA, etc in ELO or did you you decide to use this as a jumping off point for your continual insertion of your political propaganda?
The information is out there as to what was the starting point for all this back in the 60s and into the 70s. You might try looking it up.
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