Romney isn't concerned about the very poor, and I'm not concerned about Romney. This is the best the Republicans can come up with --- a philanderer who espouses Christian values and a Mormon who believes that my current place of residence is where Christ will first appear during the great Rapture.
I'm not voting this season for a host of reasons --- the most important being the campaign donations issue. I hope all of you do the same.
Jeff-- Refusing to vote is a vote for the bad guys. I hope you will reconsider. I agree with you that the Supreme Court has done everything it can to ruin democracy, but we regular human beings still have the power to vote. So why would you hand that over to them as well?
Fuck 'em all. They need to replace the names with Dupont, General Motors, Goldman Sacs, etc., and then I'll consider it. I'm tired of falling for illusions.
A few Obama legacies ·First President to defy a Federal Judge's court order to cease implementing the Health Care Reform Law. ·First President to require all Americans to purchase a product from a third party. ·First President to spend a trillion dollars on 'shovel-ready' jobs when there was no such thing as 'shovel-ready' jobs. ·First President to abrogate bankruptcy law to turn over control of companies to his union supporters. ·First President to by-pass Congress and implement the Dream Act through executive fiat. . ·First President to order a secret amnesty program that stopped the deportation of illegal immigrants across the U.S. , including those with criminal convictions. ·First President to demand a company hand-over $20 billion to one of his political appointees. ·First President to terminate America ’s ability to put a man in space. ·First President to have a law signed by an auto-pen without being present. ·First President to arbitrarily declare an existing law unconstitutional and refuse to enforce it.
“First President to defy a Federal Judge's court order to cease implementing the Health Care Reform Law.”
Numerous courts have found the Affordable Care Act to be constitutional. The Supreme Court will ultimately decide.
“First President to require all Americans to purchase a product from a third party.”
And the idea is a conservative one, espoused just a decade ago by the GOP as a free market alternative to Hillary Care.
“First President to spend a trillion dollars on 'shovel-ready' jobs when there was no such thing as 'shovel-ready' jobs.”
It wasn't even close to a trillion dollars. The stimulus was $787 billion, a third of which came in the form of tax cuts.
“First President to abrogate bankruptcy law to turn over control of companies to his union supporters.”
A judge agreed to the terms of the bankruptcy. And last I checked, the 17.5 percent stake the UAW got in GM doesn't allow them to “control” anything.
“First President to by-pass Congress and implement the Dream Act through executive fiat.”
No such executive order exists.
“First President to order a secret amnesty program that stopped the deportation of illegal immigrants across the U.S. , including those with criminal convictions.”
His administration has already deported more illegals than Bush did in eight years.
“First President to demand a company hand-over $20 billion to one of his political appointees.”
I would ask you to elaborate on this claim, but it's pretty clear that you copied and pasted this list from some right-wing web site and would be unable to do so.
“First President to terminate America ’s ability to put a man in space.”
According to the St. Petersburg Times PolitiFact Check site, "Richard Nixon, perhaps in conjunction with Gerald Ford, would be the one to qualify for the unwanted title of "first president to terminate America's ability to put a man in space" -- not Obama." The Apollo program ended in 1975 and had a five year gap in space launches until the Space Shuttle program was in full operation.
“First President to have a law signed by an auto-pen without being present.”
White House officials said they based their decision on a 2005 memorandum by the Justice Department (the Bush Justice Department), which concluded that “the president need not personally perform the physical act of affixing his signature to a bill to sign it.”
“First President to arbitrarily declare an existing law unconstitutional and refuse to enforce it.”
Not the first. Certainly not the last. http://www.justice.gov/olc/nonexcut.htm
There is plenty more. ·First President to threaten insurance companies if they publicly spoke-out on the reasons for their rate increases. ·First President to tell a major manufacturing company in which state it is allowed to locate a factory. ·First President to file lawsuits against the states he swore an oath to protect (AZ, WI, OH, IN). ·First President to withdraw an existing coal permit that had been properly issued years ago. ·First President to fire an inspector general of Ameri-corps for catching one of his friends in a corruption case. ·First President to appoint 45 czars to replace elected officials in his office. . ·First President to golf 73 separate times in his first two and a half years in office, 90 to date. ·First President to hide his medical, educational and travel records. ·First President to win a Nobel Peace Prize for doing NOTHING to earn it. ·First President to go on multiple global 'apology tours'. ·First President to go on 17 lavish vacations, including date nights and Wednesday evening White House parties for his friends; paid for by the taxpayer. ·First President to have 22 personal servants (taxpayer funded) for his wife. ·First President to keep a dog trainer on retainer for $102,000 a year at taxpayer expense. ·First President to repeat the Holy Qur’an tells us the early morning call of the Azan (Islamic call to worship) is the most beautiful sound on earth. · First President to take a 17 day vacation.
Fred, why don't you save some time and list the Ron Paul website you are cutting and pasting all this from. Ron Paul has about as much chance of getting elected president as you do. Here is the web site http://www.dailypaul.com/206674/presidential-firsts
Fred - Can you form a coherent thought of your own? This list is obviously full of inaccuracies and downright falsehoods. Why didn't you include that crazy birther claims, too?
Fred - You see, there's this thing called credibility. Once I pointed out the first half of your list was bullshit, the rest of the list lost all credibility. I won't waste my time again.
Yesuscant...I guess I have proven my point. You "pointed out" nothing. You have espoused your meaningless opinion which means nothing. I have offered facts and you counter with mindless banter.
Fred - Obviously you have no idea what a fact is. You see, something can't be subjective and also a fact. For example, saying that Obama didn't deserve the Nobel Peace Prize is subjective. It's an opinion. Your list is filled with inaccuracies, subjective statements and flat out lies.
By the way, thanks for defining the word meaningless for me. I was really stuck on that one.
Avenger - Is that what I smell coming from your upper lip?
Correction: The upper lip comment was meant for Canned Heat.
Avenger -So are you saying that the all the GOP candidates - all of which are polling behind Obama and have fatal flaws that will ensure a loss in the general election - are less than turds?
How old are you? Ten, eleven maybe? You probably still believe in Global Warming. Oh wait they had to change the name to Climate Change because the planet wasn't warming.
Why might less intelligent people be drawn to conservative ideologies? Because such ideologies feature "structure and order" that make it easier to comprehend a complicated world, Dodson said. "Unfortunately, many of these features can also contribute to prejudice," he added.
...
"Reality is complicated and messy," he told The Huffington Post in an email. "Ideologies get rid of the messiness and impose a simpler solution. So, it may not be surprising that people with less cognitive capacity will be attracted to simplifying ideologies."
M said, I've always wondered why 21st century conservatives are so opposed to science. Does anyone know? (I assume you are speaking of Global Warming)
Answer, because the Global Warming science is a total fraud and there are people in this world smart enough to see through it. There are real scientists in this world who's opinion isn't attached to keeping their government job. Global Warming is the religion of the leftists, high priest Al Gore.
Yes Us. I'd say you are 10 or 11 acting like 4. You sound like a product of our public schools (unable to think for yourself). And, you must be on welfare to support the fraud and loser Obama. Obama is down to two kinds of supporters, the educated idiots and people on welfare. Both make a good living from the this outrageous spending administration. About my turd comment: I was being kind when I said that.
Avenger-- Virtually all climate and Earth scientists agree that global warming is real. That's no longer an issue. However, there is a small group of scientists who disagree on the cause. This is normal. Of course, one can always choose to ignore scientific facts for political reasons, but that doesn't change the scientific facts. What Al Gore or any politician has to say about it is irrelevant.
I take my science from scientists, not politicians, just as I learn biology from biologists, not preachers or politicians.
M, That's part of the lie. That's what you're told. And you're buying it. Fact is there are far more scientists who say it's nonsense than say it isn't. Some of Al Gore's scientists weren't really scientists at all.
I have no doubt what I saw will change any minds, but at least look into it. Stop believing everything you hear on NPR and do a little research for yourself.
The Global Warming scam is designed to control people and their money on a global scale. I thought you were a journalist. Good journalists alway fact check.
Avenger-- I expose myself to hundreds of sources of information. NPR is one of them. Your claims are simply false. Making false claims repeatedly doesn't make them true. What you're really saying is that I don't expose myself to the right-wing political propaganda. I couldn't care less about global warming as a political issue, only a scientific issue. Again, the claim you are making about scientific consensus is not only false, but not even close to the truth.
I'm not trying to convince you of anything, but for some reason, you can't let it go.
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Romney isn't concerned about the very poor, and I'm not concerned about Romney. This is the best the Republicans can come up with --- a philanderer who espouses Christian values and a Mormon who believes that my current place of residence is where Christ will first appear during the great Rapture.
I'm not voting this season for a host of reasons --- the most important being the campaign donations issue. I hope all of you do the same.
Jeff--
Refusing to vote is a vote for the bad guys. I hope you will reconsider. I agree with you that the Supreme Court has done everything it can to ruin democracy, but we regular human beings still have the power to vote. So why would you hand that over to them as well?
Fuck 'em all. They need to replace the names with Dupont, General Motors, Goldman Sacs, etc., and then I'll consider it. I'm tired of falling for illusions.
Until then, fuck 'em.
A few Obama legacies
·First President to defy a Federal Judge's court order to cease implementing the Health Care Reform Law.
·First President to require all Americans to purchase a product from a third party.
·First President to spend a trillion dollars on 'shovel-ready' jobs when there was no such thing as 'shovel-ready' jobs.
·First President to abrogate bankruptcy law to turn over control of companies to his union supporters.
·First President to by-pass Congress and implement the Dream Act through executive fiat. .
·First President to order a secret amnesty program that stopped the deportation of illegal immigrants across the U.S. , including those with criminal convictions.
·First President to demand a company hand-over $20 billion to one of his political appointees.
·First President to terminate America ’s ability to put a man in space.
·First President to have a law signed by an auto-pen without being present.
·First President to arbitrarily declare an existing law unconstitutional and refuse to enforce it.
“First President to defy a Federal Judge's court order to cease implementing the Health Care Reform Law.”
Numerous courts have found the Affordable Care Act to be constitutional. The Supreme Court will ultimately decide.
“First President to require all Americans to purchase a product from a third party.”
And the idea is a conservative one, espoused just a decade ago by the GOP as a free market alternative to Hillary Care.
“First President to spend a trillion dollars on 'shovel-ready' jobs when there was no such thing as 'shovel-ready' jobs.”
It wasn't even close to a trillion dollars. The stimulus was $787 billion, a third of which came in the form of tax cuts.
“First President to abrogate bankruptcy law to turn over control of companies to his union supporters.”
A judge agreed to the terms of the bankruptcy. And last I checked, the 17.5 percent stake the UAW got in GM doesn't allow them to “control” anything.
“First President to by-pass Congress and implement the Dream Act through executive fiat.”
No such executive order exists.
“First President to order a secret amnesty program that stopped the deportation of illegal immigrants across the U.S. , including those with criminal convictions.”
His administration has already deported more illegals than Bush did in eight years.
“First President to demand a company hand-over $20 billion to one of his political appointees.”
I would ask you to elaborate on this claim, but it's pretty clear that you copied and pasted this list from some right-wing web site and would be unable to do so.
“First President to terminate America ’s ability to put a man in space.”
According to the St. Petersburg Times PolitiFact Check site, "Richard Nixon, perhaps in conjunction with Gerald Ford, would be the one to qualify for the unwanted title of "first president to terminate America's ability to put a man in space" -- not Obama." The Apollo program ended in 1975 and had a five year gap in space launches until the Space Shuttle program was in full operation.
“First President to have a law signed by an auto-pen without being present.”
White House officials said they based their decision on a 2005 memorandum by the Justice Department (the Bush Justice Department), which concluded that “the president need not personally perform the physical act of affixing his signature to a bill to sign it.”
“First President to arbitrarily declare an existing law unconstitutional and refuse to enforce it.”
Not the first. Certainly not the last. http://www.justice.gov/olc/nonexcut.htm
Fred, if that's all you have, Obama will win in a landslide.
There is plenty more.
·First President to threaten insurance companies if they publicly spoke-out on the reasons for their rate increases.
·First President to tell a major manufacturing company in which state it is allowed to locate a factory.
·First President to file lawsuits against the states he swore an oath to protect (AZ, WI, OH, IN).
·First President to withdraw an existing coal permit that had been properly issued years ago.
·First President to fire an inspector general of Ameri-corps for catching one of his friends in a corruption case.
·First President to appoint 45 czars to replace elected officials in his office. .
·First President to golf 73 separate times in his first two and a half years in office, 90 to date.
·First President to hide his medical, educational and travel records.
·First President to win a Nobel Peace Prize for doing NOTHING to earn it.
·First President to go on multiple global 'apology tours'.
·First President to go on 17 lavish vacations, including date nights and Wednesday evening White House parties for his friends; paid for by the taxpayer.
·First President to have 22 personal servants (taxpayer funded) for his wife.
·First President to keep a dog trainer on retainer for $102,000 a year at taxpayer expense.
·First President to repeat the Holy Qur’an tells us the early morning call of the Azan (Islamic call to worship) is the most beautiful sound on earth.
· First President to take a 17 day vacation.
Fred, why don't you save some time and list the Ron Paul website you are cutting and pasting all this from. Ron Paul has about as much chance of getting elected president as you do. Here is the web site
http://www.dailypaul.com/206674/presidential-firsts
Fred - Can you form a coherent thought of your own? This list is obviously full of inaccuracies and downright falsehoods. Why didn't you include that crazy birther claims, too?
Yes us can't.....Please feel free to debunk but I bet you can't as they are all true. Sometimes the truth is a bitter pill to swallow.
Fred - You see, there's this thing called credibility. Once I pointed out the first half of your list was bullshit, the rest of the list lost all credibility. I won't waste my time again.
Yesuscant...I guess I have proven my point. You "pointed out" nothing. You have espoused your meaningless opinion which means nothing. I have offered facts and you counter with mindless banter.
Yes Us Can,
Please wake up and smell the feces.
Gentlemen, Gentlemen,
A turd could beat Obama in the upcoming and I'm not specifying what kind either.
Fred - Obviously you have no idea what a fact is. You see, something can't be subjective and also a fact. For example, saying that Obama didn't deserve the Nobel Peace Prize is subjective. It's an opinion. Your list is filled with inaccuracies, subjective statements and flat out lies.
By the way, thanks for defining the word meaningless for me. I was really stuck on that one.
Avenger - Is that what I smell coming from your upper lip?
Correction: The upper lip comment was meant for Canned Heat.
Avenger -So are you saying that the all the GOP candidates - all of which are polling behind Obama and have fatal flaws that will ensure a loss in the general election - are less than turds?
Yes Us Can,
How old are you? Ten, eleven maybe? You probably still believe in Global Warming. Oh wait they had to change the name to Climate Change because the planet wasn't warming.
I've always wondered why 21st century conservatives are so opposed to science. Does anyone know?
Avenger - You're really going to question my maturity after posting that a turd could beat Obama?
That's cute.
M - Because they are afraid of the complex and sometimes difficult world to understand so they boil things do to the simplest form possible.
Or, as this study put it, they're kind of not that smart:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/27/intelligence-study-links-prejudice_n_1237796.html
Why might less intelligent people be drawn to conservative ideologies? Because such ideologies feature "structure and order" that make it easier to comprehend a complicated world, Dodson said. "Unfortunately, many of these features can also contribute to prejudice," he added.
...
"Reality is complicated and messy," he told The Huffington Post in an email. "Ideologies get rid of the messiness and impose a simpler solution. So, it may not be surprising that people with less cognitive capacity will be attracted to simplifying ideologies."
M said, I've always wondered why 21st century conservatives are so opposed to science. Does anyone know? (I assume you are speaking of Global Warming)
Answer, because the Global Warming science is a total fraud and there are people in this world smart enough to see through it. There are real scientists in this world who's opinion isn't attached to keeping their government job. Global Warming is the religion of the leftists, high priest Al Gore.
Yes Us. I'd say you are 10 or 11 acting like 4. You sound like a product of our public schools (unable to think for yourself). And, you must be on welfare to support the fraud and loser Obama. Obama is down to two kinds of supporters, the educated idiots and people on welfare. Both make a good living from the this outrageous spending administration. About my turd comment: I was being kind when I said that.
Avenger--
Your right-wing rhetoric, childish insults, and profound ignorance only serve to strengthen those you oppose. I wish you well.
M, So you're saying global warming is real? That global warming is being honestly reported by Al Gore and the like?
Yes-Us-Can't, are you really BuckeyeELO?
Avenger--
Virtually all climate and Earth scientists agree that global warming is real. That's no longer an issue. However, there is a small group of scientists who disagree on the cause. This is normal. Of course, one can always choose to ignore scientific facts for political reasons, but that doesn't change the scientific facts. What Al Gore or any politician has to say about it is irrelevant.
I take my science from scientists, not politicians, just as I learn biology from biologists, not preachers or politicians.
M,
That's part of the lie. That's what you're told. And you're buying it. Fact is there are far more scientists who say it's nonsense than say it isn't. Some of Al Gore's scientists weren't really scientists at all.
I have no doubt what I saw will change any minds, but at least look into it. Stop believing everything you hear on NPR and do a little research for yourself.
The Global Warming scam is designed to control people and their money on a global scale. I thought you were a journalist. Good journalists alway fact check.
Avenger--
I expose myself to hundreds of sources of information. NPR is one of them. Your claims are simply false. Making false claims repeatedly doesn't make them true. What you're really saying is that I don't expose myself to the right-wing political propaganda. I couldn't care less about global warming as a political issue, only a scientific issue. Again, the claim you are making about scientific consensus is not only false, but not even close to the truth.
I'm not trying to convince you of anything, but for some reason, you can't let it go.
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